MESSAGERIES MARITIMES poster
Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 1:51 am
The Europe stamp issue by Bosnia Herzegovina-Serbian Adm. shows us two posters of which the 1.50 ? depict us a poster from 1909 of the French shipping company Cie des Messageries Maritimes. The background looks like it is Constantinople (Istanbul) with in the foreground a ship from the company.
Any idea which passenger ship is depict?
Mr. Dan Rodlie suggests that one of the following ships is depicting on this poster CHILI or CORDILLERE or the ATLANTIQUE.
Mr Peter Crichton gives then that most probably the ATLANTIQUE is depict, he gives that the ATLANTIQUE has not a crosstree at the top of the main mast whereas both the CHILI and CORDILLERE do. Also there appears to be a gap between the second and third lifeboat which both C ships do not have.
I think Peter is right and most probably the ATLANTIQUE is depict, when looking on this web-site http://www.timetableimages.com/maritime ... /mmpc1.htm (scroll down) you find photo’s of the CHILI and ATLANTIQUE you clearly can see that one has a crosstree in the top of her foremast while the ATLANTIQUE has not the same as on the poster. The CORDILLERE is most probably a sister of the CHILE she looks the same as the CHILI. (she is not depict on this web-site.)
Also the number of lifeboats, the poster gives two lifeboats then a gap. The same as on the ATLANTIQUE.
Not one of those three vessels was used in 1909 when the poster was made, in the service between France and the Orient.
All the ships of the Messageries Maritimes you can find on the following web-site: http://www.frenchlines.com/histoire/his ... res_en.php
ATLANTIQUE built under yard No 79 by the own yard of Messageries Maritimes at La Ciotat.
05 November 1899 launched as the ATLANTIQUE.
Tonnage 6,705 gross, dim.147.8 x 15.4m, length bpp. 142.9m.
Powered by two 6-cyl.triple expansion steam engines 832nhp, twin shafts, speed 18 knots.
Passenger accommodation first class 249, second class 86 and third 396 passengers.
She was the first ship of the company with a Marconi wireless telegraph station, and refrigerated rooms cooled by a machine with air expansion.
April 1900 completed.
01 May 1900 she sailed from Bordeaux for her maiden voyage to South America.
27 August 1901 during French army maneuvers she took on board 2700 troops in Bordeaux and these troops were landed on the 29th at the beach close to La Pallice.
22 September 1912 she made the last voyage from Bordeaux to the La Plate River after this voyage this service was finished.
The put in the service from Marseille to the Far East.
8 May 1918 she avoid a submarine attack between Malta and Bizerte, 9 May was she hit by a torpedo, but she can reach Bizerte where she was docked and temporarily repairs were carried out.
1920 Rebuilt at the Messageries Maritimes shipyard in La Ciotat. She got an additional promenade deck; the bridge, lifeboats and bridge are modified. She received six oil fired new boilers
Passenger accommodation decreased for 134 first, 75 second, 87 third.
Tonnage then given as 7,357 gross, 3,787 net.
1921 Renamed in ANGKOR.
28 October 1921 under her new name she made the first voyage from Marseille to the Far East.
December 1933 sold for breaking up.
18 January 1934 arrived by Soc. Du Materiel Naval du Midi, La Seyne for scrapping.
Source: http://www.frenclines.com/ship_en_1032.php Lloyds Register. http://www.miramarshipindex.org.nz South Atlantic Seaway by N.R.P. Bonsor.
Bosnia Herzegovina 2003 sg?, scott?
Any idea which passenger ship is depict?
Mr. Dan Rodlie suggests that one of the following ships is depicting on this poster CHILI or CORDILLERE or the ATLANTIQUE.
Mr Peter Crichton gives then that most probably the ATLANTIQUE is depict, he gives that the ATLANTIQUE has not a crosstree at the top of the main mast whereas both the CHILI and CORDILLERE do. Also there appears to be a gap between the second and third lifeboat which both C ships do not have.
I think Peter is right and most probably the ATLANTIQUE is depict, when looking on this web-site http://www.timetableimages.com/maritime ... /mmpc1.htm (scroll down) you find photo’s of the CHILI and ATLANTIQUE you clearly can see that one has a crosstree in the top of her foremast while the ATLANTIQUE has not the same as on the poster. The CORDILLERE is most probably a sister of the CHILE she looks the same as the CHILI. (she is not depict on this web-site.)
Also the number of lifeboats, the poster gives two lifeboats then a gap. The same as on the ATLANTIQUE.
Not one of those three vessels was used in 1909 when the poster was made, in the service between France and the Orient.
All the ships of the Messageries Maritimes you can find on the following web-site: http://www.frenchlines.com/histoire/his ... res_en.php
ATLANTIQUE built under yard No 79 by the own yard of Messageries Maritimes at La Ciotat.
05 November 1899 launched as the ATLANTIQUE.
Tonnage 6,705 gross, dim.147.8 x 15.4m, length bpp. 142.9m.
Powered by two 6-cyl.triple expansion steam engines 832nhp, twin shafts, speed 18 knots.
Passenger accommodation first class 249, second class 86 and third 396 passengers.
She was the first ship of the company with a Marconi wireless telegraph station, and refrigerated rooms cooled by a machine with air expansion.
April 1900 completed.
01 May 1900 she sailed from Bordeaux for her maiden voyage to South America.
27 August 1901 during French army maneuvers she took on board 2700 troops in Bordeaux and these troops were landed on the 29th at the beach close to La Pallice.
22 September 1912 she made the last voyage from Bordeaux to the La Plate River after this voyage this service was finished.
The put in the service from Marseille to the Far East.
8 May 1918 she avoid a submarine attack between Malta and Bizerte, 9 May was she hit by a torpedo, but she can reach Bizerte where she was docked and temporarily repairs were carried out.
1920 Rebuilt at the Messageries Maritimes shipyard in La Ciotat. She got an additional promenade deck; the bridge, lifeboats and bridge are modified. She received six oil fired new boilers
Passenger accommodation decreased for 134 first, 75 second, 87 third.
Tonnage then given as 7,357 gross, 3,787 net.
1921 Renamed in ANGKOR.
28 October 1921 under her new name she made the first voyage from Marseille to the Far East.
December 1933 sold for breaking up.
18 January 1934 arrived by Soc. Du Materiel Naval du Midi, La Seyne for scrapping.
Source: http://www.frenclines.com/ship_en_1032.php Lloyds Register. http://www.miramarshipindex.org.nz South Atlantic Seaway by N.R.P. Bonsor.
Bosnia Herzegovina 2003 sg?, scott?